Lloyd --Rieber>>hi all
Bari C.--Francis>>hello
Marjorie Rickard>>hello
Lloyd --Rieber>>not too many folks here
Lloyd --Rieber>>it's an optional chat session
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Marjorie Rickard>>I have a few questions
Lloyd --Rieber>>But, I'm sure a few more will show up soon
Lloyd --Rieber>>Sure, Marjorie, but let's wait a few more minutes
Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>hello everyone
Lloyd --Rieber>>hi michelle
Lloyd --Rieber>>well, I'll bet we don't see Dawn in here tonight :)
Lloyd --Rieber>>I hope mother and child are doing well
Lloyd --Rieber>>ah, another instructional designer born into the world! :)
Marjorie Rickard>>are we to disregard the discussion quesitons posted in the inst. design cal
Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>if she shows up, she deserves a crown
Marjorie Rickard>>ok
Marjorie Rickard>>i saw kathleen a few min ago
Marjorie Rickard>>should i check the other room
Lloyd --Rieber>>that would be great ... I really don't know of any other room!
Lloyd --Rieber>>This is the only WebCT cluster I have access to
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Lloyd --Rieber>>Has everyone been checking their WebCT email?
Bari C.--Francis>>yes
Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>yes
Marjorie Rickard>>yes, i couldn't find anyone
Lloyd --Rieber>>Good. However, I get the sense that many folks have not.
Lloyd --Rieber>>I've received some 'regular' email from folks who didn't seem to be aware of all the WebCT email I've sent.
Lloyd --Rieber>>So, I'm hoping this is not a source of confusion.
Lloyd --Rieber>>Thanks, Marjorie
Marjorie Rickard>>the calendar stated 10-11 7pm chat
Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>Im mainly confused about assign. 1
Lloyd --Rieber>>Really?
Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>I'm not sure where to get the topic, are we suppose to make it up or is it one of the topics you gave us
Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>i.e. paint door etc
Lloyd --Rieber>>I sent email out that explained when the chat would be.
Lloyd --Rieber>>Michelle....
Lloyd --Rieber>>The topic is one that you generate....
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Lloyd --Rieber>>You should choose one that is relevant to you and your organization
Lloyd --Rieber>>The ones listed in the assignment were just examples.
Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>ok so we could possibly do something similar to a writing lesson????
Lloyd --Rieber>>yes.
Linda L--Davison>>Do we need flow charts like in the book?
Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>thanks for the clarification
Lloyd --Rieber>>We will be making flow charts like the ones in the book. However, assignment one is not meant to be that involved....
Lloyd --Rieber>>Assignment one ends at the point where you identify your goal/s....
Lloyd --Rieber>>The flow charts (like those shown in the book) are created in the other assignments
Lloyd --Rieber>>I'm glad to see that most everyone has created a "participant profile"
Linda L--Davison>>So, it is basically an overview of a potential project
Lloyd --Rieber>>Yes, that's a good way of looking at it Linda
Marjorie Rickard>>could we use a goal like increasing reading proficiency at the middle school level by a certaiin percentage
Lloyd --Rieber>>BTW, the chat session from last week should now be available....
Lloyd --Rieber>>I had to 'throw a switch' to make them accessible ... and I only did that about one hour ago
Lloyd --Rieber>>(I didn't know about the 'switch' until just today.)
Lloyd --Rieber>>Has anyone tried accessing the chat transcript in the last few minutes?
Marjorie Rickard>>no
Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>I did earlier but not in the passt few minutes
Lloyd --Rieber>>Let me know if you have any trouble ...
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Marjorie Rickard>>I have been trying to navigate all the different links
Lloyd --Rieber>>...there should now not be a problem accessing them, but I'll wait until I get confirmation from you all
Lloyd --Rieber>>I've received email from folks expressing some confusion about various things
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Lloyd --Rieber>>For example, there were contradicting dates in two places in the course materials....
Lloyd --Rieber>>the course schedule and....
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Lloyd --Rieber>>the "instructional units"....
Lloyd --Rieber>>... I worked on these today .. I think they are all now consistent.
Michelle M.--Alicea-Barrow>>Hi all...=0)
Lloyd --Rieber>>(and I sent email to everyone about this just a little bit ago.)
Linda L--Davison>>Where is the overview and goal analysis that we are to read
Michelle M.--Alicea-Barrow>>I went to the wrong room
Lloyd --Rieber>>So, you all have access to several WebCT rooms?
Diane S--White>>That was me. We also had a proposal which is due next week and clarification would be great.
Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>yes
Michelle M.--Alicea-Barrow>>yes
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Marjorie Rickard>>there are about 6
Diane S--White>>We have access to several chats.
Lloyd --Rieber>>Diane ...have you been able to get the WebCT email I've sent?
Diane S--White>>My e-mail WebCt should be forwarded to my home address but for some reason it hasn't
Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>no only nova email can be forwarded
Michelle M.--Alicea-Barrow>>I have just printed all assignments that are due
Lloyd --Rieber>>Yes, it should be easy to forward WebCT email to other addresses.....
Michelle M.--Alicea-Barrow>>Actually, I did that yesterday afternoon=0)
Lloyd --Rieber>>So, please read all of the past WebCT email I've sent if anyone hasn't been getting it forwarded.
Lloyd --Rieber>>I'll be sending WebCT email *at least* once a week, so....
Lloyd --Rieber>>if you don't get anything, please check in with me as something is likely to be wrong.
Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>ok
Michelle M.--Alicea-Barrow>>I've been checking the WebCT about every other day.
Lloyd --Rieber>>Good
Lloyd --Rieber>>Is everyone clear about where to submit Assignment 1?
Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>what about linda's question about goal analysis
Diane S--White>>I'm not clear.
Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>yes
Michelle M.--Alicea-Barrow>>I just wanted to let you know, Dawn is still in the hospital and she won't be released until Thursday..
Marjorie Rickard>>I acould like increasingnI have been trying to navigate all the linghereareyes b
Marjorie Rickard>>sorry
Lloyd --Rieber>>I missed the question .... please restate it Linda
Linda L--Davison>>Where do you find the overview and goal analysis that we are to read
Lloyd --Rieber>>The overview and goal analysis are chapters 1 and 2 of the DCC book
Michelle M.--Alicea-Barrow>>Hence the reason as to why she is not here tonight.
Linda L--Davison>>But the calender said something about an online resource
Lloyd --Rieber>>Actually goal analysis is chapter 3
Lloyd --Rieber>>There are a variety of extra resources available ....
Lloyd --Rieber>>They are in WebCT, but...
Lloyd --Rieber>>the main resource ... the one to really study ... is the DCC book.
Linda L--Davison>>OK
Marjorie Rickard>>assignment , should it be related to our area of study
Marjorie Rickard>>ass. 1
Lloyd --Rieber>>Yes, the assignment 1 should be something related to your work
Diane S--White>>Is this the one that we'r edoing in gropus/
Diane S--White>>groups, sorry
Marjorie Rickard>>will we continue working on this same goal throughout the course
Lloyd --Rieber>>Assignment 1 is done individually, and the rest are done in a group.
Lloyd --Rieber>>Let me explain a little about that....
Linda L--Davison>>Back to where to submit assignment1?
Lloyd --Rieber>>Assignment 1 gets everyone to start thinking about instructional design in your own areas of interest....
Lloyd --Rieber>>You work on assignment 1 individually and submit it to.....
Lloyd --Rieber>>your "participant profile/page"..... I sent email about this on Friday
Michelle M.--Alicea-Barrow>>Shouldn't we submit assignments to you Dr. Rieber?
Lloyd --Rieber>>No, assignment 1 is not submitted directly to me....
Diane S--White>>I'm confused.
Doug L--Arnold>>me as well
Lloyd --Rieber>>I'll try to explain.....
Lloyd --Rieber>>Assignment 1 is an online submission
Diane S--White>>Are you asking us to attach it to our web page/
Lloyd --Rieber>>It is submitted as part of your "participant profile"....
Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>some people have not found the profile link
Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>i stumbled on it by accident
Diane S--White>>I haven't.
Lloyd --Rieber>>two people have not created a participant profile as of this afternoon.
Lloyd --Rieber>>(Again, I sent email about this on Friday .... the best thing is probably to read that well.)
Lloyd --Rieber>>But here is the short answer....
Diane S--White>>I've been surfing WebCt and have not come across it.
Lloyd --Rieber>>It is located in the following area of WebCT.....
Lloyd --Rieber>>Instructional Design -> Participant Profile & pages
Marjorie Rickard>>aaawe wos goal for ssb
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Marjorie Rickard>>sorry
Lloyd --Rieber>>Let me explain more about Assignment 1
Marjorie Rickard>>tec problems
Lloyd --Rieber>>(Don't worry, you'll all find it ... again, look for my email explanation)
Lloyd --Rieber>>After you submit Assignment 1....
Lloyd --Rieber>>I will make all of your answers "public". There is an important reason for this.....
Marjorie Rickard>>could a goal for ass. 1 be to increase literacy at the middle school level by a certain %
Lloyd --Rieber>>Although Assignment 1 is completed individually, it is also meant as a way to help form the teams.....
Lloyd --Rieber>>We will use Assignment 1 as a way for people to form a team based on similar project ideas.
Lloyd --Rieber>>Yes, Marjorie, but....
Lloyd --Rieber>>It's best to submit a project idea that is procedural in nature ... that is, more "clear cut"
Lloyd --Rieber>>the less fuzzy the better.
Marjorie Rickard>>i would make it very specific
Michelle M.--Alicea-Barrow>>The first assignment, the audience, reason, how it will help?
Lloyd --Rieber>>I don't understand your question, Michelle ... please restate
Marjorie Rickard>>could we submit our ideas to you before posting them
Lloyd --Rieber>>No need Marjorie ... after you submit, you can update as often as you like.....
Bari C.--Francis>>In read ch. 2 about goal writing the authors don't really mention quantitative measurements in the goal, but should we include them in our goal?
Lloyd --Rieber>>If someone is "way off base", I'll let you know before I make these public.
Marjorie Rickard>>will we continue on our own or in a group
Michelle M.--Alicea-Barrow>>Our paper needs to state our audience, reason, and how it can help, correct?
Lloyd --Rieber>>We will form groups BASED on what you submit to assignment 1
Marjorie Rickard>>will the groups focus on a similar idea or pick one which has already been stated?
Lloyd --Rieber>>Teams can either pick one of the project ideas submitted by someone, or.....
Lloyd --Rieber>>adapt/modify a project topic to make it relevant to everyone in the team (this is the most likely scenario).
Michelle M.--Alicea-Barrow>>Will there be a problem with me just teachingK-12 and my idea wa beyong high school>
Lloyd --Rieber>>So, in a sense, you all should try to "market" your project idea to the rest of the class!
Lloyd --Rieber>>No, Michelle. However, you may not find a team wanting to work in this area specifically, so you may have to "compromise" when you get on a team.
Lloyd --Rieber>>But, Assignment 1 is meant to get you all to think about instructional design in an area important/familiar to you.
Michelle M.--Alicea-Barrow>>Sorry about my previous post....I teach k-12, but I would like to get into to post-secondary situation?!
Michelle M.--Alicea-Barrow>>Okay, thanks Dr. Riber=0)
Lloyd --Rieber>>:)
Diane S--White>>I noticed that there was some requirement that the students be literate but I teach severely disabled students. would it be ok to set an appropriate goal for them?
Marjorie Rickard>>how will the teams be formed?
Lloyd --Rieber>>Please check out the participant profiles ... I programmed this to make it easier for you all to learn more about the focus areas of your classmates
Lloyd --Rieber>>Good question Marjorie.
Lloyd --Rieber>>I'm hoping that most teams will form naturally, that is.....
Lloyd --Rieber>>After the Assignment 1s become public, I'm hoping that folks will take the initiative to look over all the postings and email individuals with whom you want to join up
Lloyd --Rieber>>I will step in to form teams only for people who don't find themselves already on a team.
Lloyd --Rieber>>I will send explicit email instructions about this (don't worry).
Marjorie Rickard>>assignment 2 will result from assignment 1 and the groups formed?
Lloyd --Rieber>>Yes, Marjorie. Assignment 2 will be completed by the newly formed teams.
Lloyd --Rieber>>Working together as a team at a distance will be a challenge
Diane S--White>>This is all starting to make much more sense.
Lloyd --Rieber>>Good Diane (you just made my night!)
Marjorie Rickard>>great, sounds interesting
Michelle M.--Alicea-Barrow>>Groups should be formed from assignment one, correct?
Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>thanks for the clarification
Lloyd --Rieber>>Yes, Michelle ... groups will form immediately after the assignment 1 responses are made public
Diane S--White>>Are you suggesting that we consider our geographic locations?
Lloyd --Rieber>>Geographic locations can be helpful if the teams want to meet f2f .... but I know that will not be practical/possible for all team members
Michelle M.--Alicea-Barrow>>That is a good idea, Diane... but what if all of us do not have the same idea?!
Lloyd --Rieber>>But yes, feel free to consider geographic location as a variable
Lloyd --Rieber>>As we discussed last week, the formation of teams requires much compromise ... there is never a "perfect team" in terms of topic, etc.
Lloyd --Rieber>>All ID courses such as this face this challenge.
Michelle M.--Alicea-Barrow>>This is a challege!!=0)
Marjorie Rickard>>will we have chat space available for our teams
Linda L--Davison>>We always have the general chats
Lloyd --Rieber>>Yes, Marjorie, teams can use chat ..... I'll check into the possibility of creating special chat rooms (not sure if that is possible)
Michelle M.--Alicea-Barrow>>Which is nice!!!
Lloyd --Rieber>>yes, there are always the general chat
Lloyd --Rieber>>So, to begin working on Assignment 1 do the following.....
Marjorie Rickard>>assignments one is due on the 18th?
Lloyd --Rieber>>Yes, it's due on the 18th.
Marjorie Rickard>>thank you
Lloyd --Rieber>>But, it's ready now online for your to submit ....
Lloyd --Rieber>>Step one: create a class profile (most of you have done this).
Doug L--Arnold>>Thank you
Lloyd --Rieber>>Step two: Go and log in to your class profile/participante page and....
Lloyd --Rieber>>.... you will see a link to create "Assignment 1".
Lloyd --Rieber>>Step three: Update your Assignment 1 as often as you like up to the 18th.
Lloyd --Rieber>>I'll review these on the 19th.
Michelle M.--Alicea-Barrow>>Dr. Rieber, are you basing groups on that profile, or leaving it to us?=0)
Lloyd --Rieber>>If anyone is "off base", I'll email you feedback, otherwise.....
Lloyd --Rieber>>I will make all Assignment 1 responses public for you all to peruse.
Lloyd --Rieber>>Michelle ... I will give you all the chance to form teams first ... based on the profiles AND Assignment 1 responses
Doug L--Arnold>>Sounds good
Marjorie Rickard>>so, we will not be able to look at other clustermates ass. 1 until after the 19th?
Diane S--White>>Sounds great!
Michelle M.--Alicea-Barrow>>Thanks, Dr. R...Just checking..
Lloyd --Rieber>>Yes, Marjorie, that is correct
Marjorie Rickard>>ok
Lloyd --Rieber>>Once you all start to use the participant profiles/pages, I hope you will see this as a "good thing" :)
Lloyd --Rieber>>BTW, don't forget that it is possible to add a picture to your profile.
Marjorie Rickard>>I like it!
Lloyd --Rieber>>If you are not sure how, feel free to send me a digital photo and I'll add it for you
Marjorie Rickard>>how
Lloyd --Rieber>>BTW, have you all met each other f2f?
Diane S--White>>yes
Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>yes
Lloyd --Rieber>>Good
Doug L--Arnold>>yep
Marjorie Rickard>>I couldn't find a browse
Lloyd --Rieber>>It's good to have made the 'personal contact'
Marjorie Rickard>>what do we click on?
Lloyd --Rieber>>photos on the class profile just "point" to a photo that is already on the web somewhere ... all you do is put the URL to it in the profile
Marjorie Rickard>>ok
Lloyd --Rieber>>Again, if adding a photo is confusing, just email me your digital photo as an attachment and I'll take care of it for you .... this is not something I want anyone to waste any time on.
Lloyd --Rieber>>(And I like doing this kind of stuff!)
Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>thanks
Lloyd --Rieber>>A quick word about the next set of movies....
Lloyd --Rieber>>I'm a little behind on these....
Lloyd --Rieber>>The video presentation of chapter 2 should be ready Monday or Tuesday .....
Michelle M.--Alicea-Barrow>>Dr. Rieber, is it possible to "pick" our ouw groups?
Lloyd --Rieber>>.... Nova folks are 'converting' it now.
Lloyd --Rieber>>My video presentation for chapter 3 should be ready by the end of the week, as well as that for chapter 4
Doug L--Arnold>>sounds good
Marjorie Rickard>>I like the videos
Lloyd --Rieber>>Yes, Michelle, but ...
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Diane S--White>>There a good supplement to the chapters.
Lloyd --Rieber>>.... we will wait until after Assignment 1s are ready before making any team official.
Doug L--Arnold>>but what?
Doug L--Arnold>>oh ok
Lloyd --Rieber>>(I type fast, but not that fast!)
Lloyd --Rieber>>Again, assignment 1 will help everyone know the areas of interest of their classmates
Michelle M.--Alicea-Barrow>>I have not seen the videos yet. My computer has been acting quite " weird" lately.
Lloyd --Rieber>>You mean you haven't seen Annabelle yet Michelle? (My Jersey cow)
Lloyd --Rieber>>:)
Diane S--White>>I love Annabelle
Lloyd --Rieber>>She is a very sweet animal
Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>annabelle is quite the star
Lloyd --Rieber>>800 pounds of sweetness :)
Doug L--Arnold>>Go Jersey's!! Godawgs!!
Michelle M.--Alicea-Barrow>>I have checked out your websites, and I do not recall Annabelle!
Marjorie Rickard>>Maybe we should all take a trip to the farm
Michelle M.--Alicea-Barrow>>I have been a bit out of it lately!!
Diane S--White>>That sounds like agreat field trip!
Doug L--Arnold>>Lets go!
Lloyd --Rieber>>If you click on "course videos" on the main WebCT page, then....
Michelle M.--Alicea-Barrow>>GO CUBBIES!!! GO HURRICANES!!! I'M A BIG FAN!!
Lloyd --Rieber>>...click on "Lloyd's NowhereRoad Videos"
Michelle M.--Alicea-Barrow>>Field trip? Let's go!!!
Lloyd --Rieber>>Annabelle is featured in the video on "needs assessment"
Lloyd --Rieber>>Sure, come on over to Nowhere Road .... you are all invited! :)
Marjorie Rickard>>what
Michelle M.--Alicea-Barrow>>Virtual Field Trip. Everyone have thier permission slips???
Marjorie Rickard>>what's on the Thanksgiving menu?
Lloyd --Rieber>>OK, I won't keep you over one hour .... any more questions
Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>thanks for your patience
Lloyd --Rieber>>Again, please catch up on all of the WebCT email I've sent
Marjorie Rickard>>Thanks for the clarification
Diane S--White>>Thank you for all of the clarification.
Doug L--Arnold>>Thank U!!
Lloyd --Rieber>>I'm known for using email for my "long explanations" , so read them slowly and carefully (with a glass of your favorite beverage in hand!)
Linda L--Davison>>Thank you
Doug L--Arnold>>:-)
Doug L--Arnold>>Is this good night?
Lloyd --Rieber>>So, who is rooting for Chicago or Florida?
Michelle M.--Alicea-Barrow>>Hey guys, I have to run. Need to head home. I will check when I get home. I am pretty sure
Diane S--White>>Florida
Lloyd --Rieber>>(Yes, feel free to log off when ready)
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Doug L--Arnold>>Chicago...I giuess...Since the Bravos are out...
Linda L--Davison>>Well, i'm just south of Chicago
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Lloyd --Rieber>>I'll post this transcript before I leave tonight.
Diane S--White>>Good night!
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Linda L--Davison>>Night
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Doug L--Arnold>>Cheers to all and to all good cheer
Michelle M.--Alicea-Barrow>>HEY GUYS,.....GO CUBBIES. THANKS FOR THE CHAT.... HAVE A GREAT WEEK!
Lloyd --Rieber>>Bye all!
Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>good nite
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Lloyd --Rieber>>buenas noches
Marjorie Rickard>>Is another chat planned or should we check the email?
Lloyd --Rieber>>I'll probably do this every week, as an optional event .....
Lloyd --Rieber>>I think many people like/need it.
Lloyd --Rieber>>But, yes, do check email for confirmation.
Marjorie Rickard>>ok good night and thank you
Lloyd --Rieber>>you'
Lloyd --Rieber>>you're very welcome .... good night
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