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Doug L--Arnold>>Hello all

Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>Hey

Lloyd --Rieber>>How is everyone this evening?

Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>good

Doug L--Arnold>>Very well thank you

Marjorie Rickard>>great thank you and you

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Lloyd --Rieber>>Sorry, I got 'booted' -- I keep forgetting that you can't be in chat and another section of WebCT at the same time. :)

Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>:-)

Lloyd --Rieber>>This again is an optional chat, so I'm not sure how many people to expect.

Lloyd --Rieber>>Literally, just minutes ago I sent everyone individual feedback on Assignment 1.

Lloyd --Rieber>>(busy weekend!)

Marjorie Rickard>>I tried the videos yesterday with no luck

Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>thank you for your nice comments

Lloyd --Rieber>>But you were able to view them previously, right Marjorie?

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Marjorie Rickard>>yes, but not at all yesterday

Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>same with me

Lloyd --Rieber>>There are two video types -- .wmv and 'realmedia'

Marjorie Rickard>>I wanted to review

Lloyd --Rieber>>.wmv are viewable only from a windows computer

Marjorie Rickard>>I had seen them last week

Lloyd --Rieber>>"realmedia" -- you have to download the free player.

Lloyd --Rieber>>But if you viewed them previously, I'm not sure what the problem could be

Lloyd --Rieber>>Have you tried viewing them on a different computer, just to troubleshoot the problem?

Marjorie Rickard>>I don't know either, Michelle had the same problem, I was wondering if it was a problem with NOVA

Lloyd --Rieber>>I'll try viewing the movies tonight after the chat -- I haven't tried viewing them since last week

Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>yes we spoke on the phone as we were trying to view the videos

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Marjorie Rickard>>I am looking forward to your feed back on assignment 1 I hope I am ont off base with mine.

Lloyd --Rieber>>Actually, there is a third type of video -- the 'impatica' presentations

Lloyd --Rieber>>I hope my feedback was helpful.

Lloyd --Rieber>>Assignment 1 was not meant to be a stressful assignment.

Lloyd --Rieber>>There were lots of good project ideas.

Marjorie Rickard>>Should I have seen the feedback already?

Lloyd --Rieber>>I will 'release' these in one week, after people have a chance to view their feedback and make some udpates.

Lloyd --Rieber>>Yes, I sent everyone feedback just a few minutes ago (literally).

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Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>i got mine thanks again

Marjorie Rickard>>Well, thank you I'll get to it just as soon as we are done here.

Doug L--Arnold>>I will look now

Lloyd --Rieber>>So, are there any general questions we should discuss?

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Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>I m still a little confused on when we facilitate the bulletin board discussion

Lloyd --Rieber>>I'll be sending out a special email just about the bulletin board facilitation

Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>I was given subordinate skill analysis and I didn't see a date

Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>ok

Lloyd --Rieber>>I assume everyone has received their "chapter" assignments for the bulletin board discussions

Doug L--Arnold>>I do have a question

Lloyd --Rieber>>go ahead doug

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Lloyd --Rieber>>A little bit about the upcoming discussions in the meantime

Doug L--Arnold>>The assignment 1 project...I am unclear about the big picture...If we will be put in groups to conduct the whole project then should we just go ahead and meet with our group before putting this projevt together

Doug L--Arnold>>I know you are using this to place groups.

Lloyd --Rieber>>Yes, assignment 1 had two purposes.....

Lloyd --Rieber>>1 - to give each of you an opportunity to formulate an instructional design proposal....

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Lloyd --Rieber>>...in order to show if you understand the basic ideas of identifying a need and how to express an instructional goal

Lloyd --Rieber>>2 - the proposed projects will be used to form groups.

Lloyd --Rieber>>That's why I will 'release' the assignment 1 responses in one week.

Lloyd --Rieber>>You should all then review the iD proposals of each other to see who might form a team

Lloyd --Rieber>>Then, from here on, the assignments are done in a team on ONE project idea.

Doug L--Arnold>>Sounds good. I will revise my proposal based on your feedback

Kathleen Keller>>O TO THE CLUSTER CHAT

Lloyd --Rieber>>Forming groups is an imperfect 'science', so we'll all have to be open to compromise and be 'extra' flexible.

Marjorie Rickard>>How does one project idea get decided upon?

Marjorie Rickard>>I am still not sure

Marjorie Rickard>>Tahnk you for the feed back,

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Lloyd --Rieber>>I will let the team decide that

Doug L--Arnold>>What if we would like to change after the group is formed?

Lloyd --Rieber>>I'm hoping I don't have to step in at all

Kathleen Keller>>OPPS -Frank is in the other chat room

Lloyd --Rieber>>Once the teams have formed and topics identified, changes are not allowed

Marjorie Rickard>>do we look for ideas similar to our own to form the teams?

Lloyd --Rieber>>there just isn't time to make a change after work is begun on the project

Lloyd --Rieber>>yes, marjorie

Lloyd --Rieber>>A team may choose on ID proposal (from Assignment 1) and choose to work on that, or....

Lloyd --Rieber>>...they may develop a new proposal proposal that is a consolidation of several proposals.

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Marjorie Rickard>>Do we then ask those cluster mates if they would like to work together?

Lloyd --Rieber>>Yes. I will send email for guidance on how to 'approach' other potential team members

Marjorie Rickard>>ok, thank you

Lloyd --Rieber>>The process is a little clunky in an online environment

Doug L--Arnold>>Ok Sounds good

Lloyd --Rieber>>In a regular classs....

Lloyd --Rieber>>.... we would just take 30 minutes or so and talk about it f2f!

Lloyd --Rieber>>A quick announcement....

Lloyd --Rieber>>I will be attending the AECT conference this week in Anaheim.

Lloyd --Rieber>>I'm not sure what kind of access I will have to email while I'm gone

Lloyd --Rieber>>I leave Tuesday and will return Saturday evening.

Lloyd --Rieber>>So, if you send me email and I don't respond, please dont think i'm ignoring you

Lloyd --Rieber>>I'm hopeful that I will be able to check email (WebCT and otherwise) at least a few times while there

Doug L--Arnold>>No prob :-)

Lloyd --Rieber>>So, here are the next steps in this course......

Lloyd --Rieber>>Read my feedback to your response to assignment 1

Kathleen Keller>>Do we form oour own groups?

Lloyd --Rieber>>Update your assignment 1 during the week (no later than Saturday)

Lloyd --Rieber>>I will then 'release' all of the assignment 1 responses on Sunday.

Lloyd --Rieber>>At that time I will also send email about how to form groups.

Lloyd --Rieber>>Yes, I'm hoping that you all will naturally form your own groups based on topic interest

Kathleen Keller>>I'd like to start as soon as possible

Lloyd --Rieber>>Good -- I do too. :)

Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>great

Lloyd --Rieber>>We will also start the bulletin board discussions related to DCC

Lloyd --Rieber>>I'll send out separate email guidance on that

Lloyd --Rieber>>But, it's meant to be a simple thing....

Lloyd --Rieber>>... just pretend that we are all in one room discussing each of the chapters in turn

Lloyd --Rieber>>With one person 'leading the way' -- getting discussion going and facilitating the discussion that ensues

Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>:-}

Lloyd --Rieber>>Let's not make it complicated! :)

Marjorie Rickard>>I don't like complicated!

Kathleen Keller>>I've already been building an objective hierarchy for my proposed project - my work enviromnment can't wait

Lloyd --Rieber>>good!

Lloyd --Rieber>>That's fine Kathleen -- it's good to apply these skills to your own situation. However....

Lloyd --Rieber>>...just keep in mind that your project may not be the team project -- after all, the team will decide that.

Lloyd --Rieber>>But, I encourage everyone to apply these skills in their own work place, even if you are not getting 'course credit' for doing so!

Lloyd --Rieber>>Other questions?

Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>I'm fine for now-no more questions

Doug L--Arnold>>Ok

Marjorie Rickard>>ok

Lloyd --Rieber>>Well, I don't have any other agenda for this evening. No other announcements, etc.

Marjorie Rickard>>thank you

Lloyd --Rieber>>I will be sending email (WebCT) out tomorrow before I leave for Anaheim

Doug L--Arnold>>Thanks

Lloyd --Rieber>>So, check your WebCT email sometime by Tuesday

Michelle Scott-Lawrence>>ok

Lloyd --Rieber>>Feel free to 'quit' the chat when ready ... I like being the last person to exit

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Lloyd --Rieber>>(Just in case another question pops up)

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Lloyd --Rieber>>I'll post the chat transcript before I leave tonight

Kathleen Keller>>OK _ thanks - I have to build a EPPS at work and would love to incorporate it into the project - have a great wee everyone!

Doug L--Arnold>>Bye

Lloyd --Rieber>>You have a great week too, Kathleen

Doug L--Arnold>>U 2

Lloyd --Rieber>>See ya Doug

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Lloyd --Rieber>>Kathleen, Jay -- other questions?

Kathleen Keller>>no, just want to do both work assignments and school together - bye Dr..Rieber!

Lloyd --Rieber>>see ya

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Lloyd --Rieber>>Jay, are you still here?

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Lloyd --Rieber>>Forget something Kathleen?

Kathleen Keller>>no just checking - I'd love to talk personnally sometime...

Lloyd --Rieber>>Feel free to give me a call sometime

Lloyd --Rieber>>Well, I'm gonna get back to other work ... have a great week!

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